Ancient Treasures waypoint

[lisa]

Yes it looks to me like those invisible walls are sever-sided walls. No model cheats will beat that imo

It only obstructs you if you move normally, if you teleport it is fine.

I have been doing AT with no model for instance and just teleporting everywhere, I have still been getting agro with lvl 50 chars though, so no real improvement there.

Instead of flying/teleporting through the labirynth, maybe it is possible to teleport candlesticks and treasure chests to our character?

Issue with that is not all the candlesticks are within memory range no matter where you enter the instance, so even if you could you would need to get to another spot that is safe. You would also need to be on floor level as the candle would drop down to what ever solid floor is below it.

Possible way to do it is find a central type area with only 1 mob nearby and kill it with "snipe" and then move the candlestick to you, click them and then head to chest room. I guess you could move all chests to you aswell but really seems like a lot of effort to do that when the chest room is safe.

[kkulesza]

It only obstructs you if you move normally, if you teleport it is fine.

I experience pullbacks 50% of time while teleporting through "invisible walls".

I have been doing AT with no model for instance and just teleporting everywhere

Did you teleport betwin waypoints or in straight lines betwin candles? Because if betwin WPs than you didn't cross any invivsible wall.

Issue with that is not all the candlesticks are within memory range no matter where you enter the instance, so even if you could you would need to get to another spot that is safe.

This is strange because with no-walls model i could visualy see all candles.

You would also need to be on floor level as the candle would drop down to what ever solid floor is below it.

If candle teleportation works, than there is no need to have "no-walls" model folder.

Possible way to do it is find a central type area with only 1 mob nearby and kill it with "snipe" and then move the candlestick to you, click them and then head to chest room. I guess you could move all chests to you aswell but really seems like a lot of effort to do that when the chest room is safe.

Yes. We could use same WP file as now, only modify the gathering-candle function so it teleports candle to character instead of teleporting the character to the candle. So all waypoint would be up in the air where no mob will aggro.

[lisa]

Did you teleport betwin waypoints or in straight lines betwin candles? Because if betwin WPs than you didn't cross any invivsible wall.

I used commandline
player:update() teleport(player.X + 40, player.Z + 10, 90)

adjusting the + and - to the player coords to how I wanted to move.

Even went straight up past the "roof" to 110 and then flew around without hitting anything and then teleported back under "roof" to 80.

Also the area near where the NPC is there are gaps in roof so you can easily go up and then head to where you want and teleport back down.
So if we could edit out the roof like we first looked in to this would work really well.

Of course still need to look at moving cadlesticks aswell lol

[kkulesza]

player:update() teleport(player.X + 40, player.Z + 10, 90)

I see. So teleportation "jumps" work.
I used romeomultihack. By default there is teleportation +1 while key pressed.

[lisa]

This is strange because with no-walls model i could visualy see all candles.

You can see the model from a greater distance then when memory actually gets pawn information, coords, GUID, address and such. So yes you need to be closer to be able to change the coords of the object you want.

I am going to try this as a test, when I get time. Basically it is Rock's teleport but I added in an argument for address of object to "move" instead of just assuming player wants to move.

--=== removed file, not working yet ===--

usage would be something like this

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player:update()
local elemental = GetIdName(113614)
local cecandle = player:findNearestNameOrId(elemental,nil)
if cecandle then
teleport2(player.X +15, Player.Z +15, player.Y, true, cecandle.Address)
end

Might work, might not =)

[rock5]

This is strange because with no-walls model i could visualy see all candles.

Maybe you saw a lot of candles and thought you saw all of them. It's also possible you saw the other candles to open the ghost portals but you were too far away to see the fire effect so it looked like an elemental candlestick.

Yes. We could use same WP file as now, only modify the gathering-candle function so it teleports candle to character instead of teleporting the character to the candle. So all waypoint would be up in the air where no mob will aggro.

Not really. With low level characters I still aggro the mobs even when flying allong the roof. So the path would have to be above the roof if possible to avoid aggro.

So if we could edit out the roof like we first looked in to this would work really well.

I don't think we will be able to do this as we don't have any software that can edit and save ros files.

Of course still need to look at moving cadlesticks aswell lol

It will be interresting to see if this is even possible. I guess we could practice with other objects. My guess is if we can move them, we wont be able to click them. What happens with mobs if they look like they are close enough to attack but server side they are out of range? You get a message saying "out of range".

You can see the model from a greater distance then when memory actually gets pawn information

That doesn't seem right. If you can see them, wouldn't they have to be in memory too?

teleport2(player.X +15, Player.Z +15, player.Y, false, cecandle.Address)

This looks wrong. You are specifying absolute values so it should be true or nil. You only use "false" when using relative values.

[lisa]

This looks wrong. You are specifying absolute values so it should be true or nil. You only use "false" when using relative values.

yeah I never looked hard enough at what the absolute was for, so use true instead of false.

Still have no idea if it will work or not, can't test it at the moment.

Code I posted won't work yet.

[kanta]

Not really. With low level characters I still aggro the mobs even when flying allong the roof. So the path would have to be above the roof if possible to avoid aggro.

Well, if Lisa has it working so that we can teleport above the roof, maybe just adjust my waypoint file Y coords to +30 or 40. Should be far enough to avoid the aggro with low levels and I have the invisible skill casting for each candle collection.

[lisa]

Well, if Lisa has it working so that we can teleport above the roof,

Only trouble is I did it by nulifying the entire instance, walls, roof, floor, not the best solution. Need to be able to edit the .ros to do it properly.

[kanta]

If I had the money I'd pay for the full version of Machinima Studio. Supposedly you can change the model files and export them. Not sure how much that can be edited/changed though.

[rock5]

I'm not sure if it can save the ros files though.

[lisa]

You can export them in the trial but the trouble is we don't want to export it, we want to modify it and then save it.

The exported models are saved in different file types to what we want.

If the programme actually did what we wanted I would happily pay the $20 USD for it but unfortunately it isn't what we want, it could be if the developer wanted it to be but I think they have stopped work on the project anyway.

[rock5]

The invisibility should be done differently. Instead of waiting for the invisibility to disappear before continuing, it should continue right away. Then, before collecting the next candle, it should check to see if invisiblity is still on cooldown and wait then. Not only do you not waste the invisibility and saves time but I've had it a few times wait for the cooldown at that hard candle and it always gets attacked after the invisibility wears off before the cooldown runs out.

Edit: forgot to say, sometimes it fails to collect the totems. As soon as it starts, the casting bar turns red and it stops. Might just be that we need to add a pause to wait for it to come to a complete stop or add a check to try again.

[lisa]

I've been using this when I get to directly above the candle (at roof)

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			local duration, remaining = RoMScript("GetExtraActionCooldown(1);")
			player:update()
			if not player.Battling then
				if remaining ~= 0 then
					yrest(remaining*1000)
				end
					RoMScript("UseExtraAction(1)")
					yrest(1000)
					teleport(cecandle.X+10,cecandle.Z+10,cecandle.Y + 15) 

[rock5]

Yes, something like that will do. I think I might make a function to put the player behind the candle in the hope it helps with lower level characters. Should be simple enough to do.

[kanta]

I'll see what I can do. It'll be a little later as I have a few things I need to get done before getting involved with the coding though.

[rock5]

Here's my function for going behind candle. All it does is go a certain distance from the candle away from the center of the map. I'll do some testing soon.

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function behindCoords(_x, _z, _dist)
	-- Calculates new coords _dist distance away prom _x, _z 
	-- in direction away from center of map.

	_dist = _dist or 10
	local centerX, centerZ = 3842, 3834

	local distanceToCenter = distance(_x, _z, centerX, centerZ)
	local xRatio = (_x-centerX)/distanceToCenter
	local zRatio = (_z-centerZ)/distanceToCenter
	local newX = _x + (_dist * xRatio)
	local newZ = _z + (_dist * zRatio)

	return newX, newZ
end

[lisa]

Can't find any programmes that can edit .ros files

Currently I have Autodesk 3DS Max Design 2012 on my PC and it won't even load the file or import them.

Apparently a programme called Dynamite VSP does work on ros files but I can't confirm it as yet.

[rock5]

Ok, what I did was add the above function to the onload section. And change "getecandle" like this.

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	function getecandle()
		if player:findNearestNameOrId(_Elemental) then
			player:update()
			local cecandle = player:findNearestNameOrId(_Elemental)
			local dist = distance(cecandle.X,cecandle.Z,player.X,player.Z)
			local lastpllocx = player.X
			local lastpllocz = player.Z
			local lastpllocy = player.Y
			if cecandle and (40 > dist) then

				-- wait for invisibility cooldown then use invisibility
				local duration, remaining = RoMScript("GetExtraActionCooldown(1);")
				if not player.Battling then
					if remaining ~= 0 then
					   yrest(remaining*1000)
					end
					RoMScript("UseExtraAction(1)")
					yrest(1000)
				end

				-- goto ecandle
				local behindX, behindZ = behindCoords(cecandle.X, cecandle.Z, 5)
				teleport(behindX, behindZ)	-- teleport to above ecandle
				teleport(nil, nil, cecandle.Y +5)	-- teleport in range to click ecandle

				-- click ecandle
				player:target_Object(_Elemental, 5000);
				yrest(1000)
				player:update()

				teleport(nil,nil,92)
				yrest(500)
				teleport(lastpllocx,lastpllocz)
			end
		end
	end

Works as expected. Hides behind candle while collecting. In at least 1 occasion I saw a dog just on the other side of the candle and it didn't aggro. This was with one of my 2 level 60 characters. Both Level 60 characters completed it with no issues. I also ran 2 other characters through. A level 54 and level 56. They both collected aggro while traveling along the roof. I even tried changing 92 to 92.25 but it didn't help. I noticed that it flies down the middle of the corridors. I wonder if it would help if it flew along the corners.

I think we have to accept that, as it is, it is for level 60 characters and above only.

[Sithlord512589]

Hi there,

i have a problem.
While using the german client, the script fails to "pickup" any of the elemental candlesticks. Everytime i have to do this manualy.

So i looked up the code and tried to translate the specific parts of it.

But no success for the elemental candlestick.

Now i just used getid to check it and found in my last run three different id for each candlestick.

They were 114117, 114118 and 113614.

For i am a looser in lua (i know it´s easy but anyways) i have request.

Can someone tell how to modify my script to get the "Elementar-Kerzenleuchter" (german word for Elemental candlestick) thing running.

Thanks in advance.

By the way all other parts do as they should.